As much as I like to see competition in the gaming community I think the Phantom is going to eat it big time. I think it might ship, if it does I think some people will buy it, but I don’t think it’s going to have any kind of lasting effect on gaming as we know it. I think a lot of that may be because of the hype and controversy before we ever saw the product. The way it was pitched was very remenicent of how different startups during the dot com boom came off. Also, the drama between Infinium and HardOCP with the article they wrote about Kevin. You don’t sue one of the most popular computer hardware websites and then expect to win over the community. Also there was an article a few months ago that said Infinium was looking for an aditional 11 million in investments so they could release this year. I don’t know if they got that or not, but Kevin seemed pretty optimistic. The menus and stuff they showed looked pretty basic and nothing to write home about.
The fact remains that there was a lot of shady stuff that HardOCP uncovered early in the game, evn though Kevin seems like a pretty nice guy on TV I still don’t trust him or Infinium.
“The menus and stuff they showed looked pretty basic and nothing to write home about.” That is one of the nice things. No hard to understand or hard to find menus or anything!
“The fact remains that there was a lot of shady stuff that HardOCP uncovered early in the game, evn though Kevin seems like a pretty nice guy on TV I still don’t trust him or Infinium.” Don’t believe everything you hear anywhere. It might be angled, it might not be. I don’t know in this case since I haven’t read it but I believe that many things are angled alot (such as Fahrenheit 9/11).
How I understood it before was that there was a monthly fee instead, the system they are using now (pay for each game) is alot better in my oppinion. And from what I’ve heard the whole buy and download games (Direct-to-Drive and all that stuff) are getting quite popular. Half-Life 2 had many sales over the download system.
Btw, ITAvenger, im not trying to attack you or anything, Im just giving you might thoughts
I didn’t think that was an attack UnknownBum I value all opinion.
My meaning on the menus was that it seemed very barebones, and based on how it’s been marketed and the console itself it looks like a very early alpha build with not a lot of flash to it. Flash is all this thing has been from the start so it was a bit suprising.
Did you read the HardOCP’s article from late 2003?
It’s pretty interesting. It paints a very dim picture of the company. I know how things can have a slant, but the way the article was written and the way it was researched it seems pretty unbiased. Kevin Bachaus (the guy in the video) was brought in to give the console legitamacy after the article was written and airs a lot of dirty laundry about the original president that Infinum probably didn’t want it’s investors to know. He seems to have brought them a long way since then, but I still don’t see this as a viable platform.
I really don’t think they can make money on this service with the sophistication of competing consoles and PCs. The Phantom falls into a grey area where it’s not a PC, but it plays PC games. It’s not a console, yet it’s a throw away, non-upgradeable device like a console is. I think that the two camps of PC and console are already very established and adding a third group with this gaming service will not fly with already cash strapped gamers.
It’s like politics in the US. A third party would be nice, but it just ain’t gonna happen.
Not impressed. The guys was kinda shaky on details. He even admitted that the Console is current Gen, and does NOT compete with XBOX 360/PS3/Nintendo Revolution.
I have BIG doubts. I think the company which is located in Sarasota, Florida had a great idea but it just took too damn long.
BTW, guys, the nice thing about the console is that there is already an established base of gamers that you can play with online and games to play. What I mean to say is that it doesn’t have to be popular to be a good buy for a few people that want to play PC games but don’t want to spend money on an expensive gaming computer.
Maybe this will help pave the way for better PC categorization in terms of performance. I know MS has always wanted to create a sort of numbering system for game requirements.
I think we all know that this isn’t going to make much if any money. I would never purchase the box, but I don’t disapprove of the concept. It still looks fishy and unprofessional, though.
My two cents? It’s going to bomb, and bomb hard. The overall system specifications are pitiful in comparison to competitors, with the excuse constantly being “it’s a service”. Sorry Kev, but I don’t think anyone is going to be able to download a faster GPU via your happy-wappy Phantom service.
Furthermore, is it just me, or is the interface absolutely atrocious? Blech!
Phantom was a well thought out name for a console that will never appear, the company has all the hallmarks of sponging from people for its money that is then used to provide salary packets and perks to the top fat cats and enough work for the lower levels to keep going. Its amazing how many accountants you need to keep track of all the stock issues and sales etc a company can produce.
Just out of interest, anyone want to buy a molding machine, going cheap, only used to stamp out 2 or 3 cases.
Direct download of massive 44.1MB file: http://media.g4tv.com/video/as5089phantom_G4750.swf
As much as I like to see competition in the gaming community I think the Phantom is going to eat it big time. I think it might ship, if it does I think some people will buy it, but I don’t think it’s going to have any kind of lasting effect on gaming as we know it. I think a lot of that may be because of the hype and controversy before we ever saw the product. The way it was pitched was very remenicent of how different startups during the dot com boom came off. Also, the drama between Infinium and HardOCP with the article they wrote about Kevin. You don’t sue one of the most popular computer hardware websites and then expect to win over the community. Also there was an article a few months ago that said Infinium was looking for an aditional 11 million in investments so they could release this year. I don’t know if they got that or not, but Kevin seemed pretty optimistic. The menus and stuff they showed looked pretty basic and nothing to write home about.
The fact remains that there was a lot of shady stuff that HardOCP uncovered early in the game, evn though Kevin seems like a pretty nice guy on TV I still don’t trust him or Infinium.
My $.02
“The menus and stuff they showed looked pretty basic and nothing to write home about.”
That is one of the nice things. No hard to understand or hard to find menus or anything!
“The fact remains that there was a lot of shady stuff that HardOCP uncovered early in the game, evn though Kevin seems like a pretty nice guy on TV I still don’t trust him or Infinium.”
Don’t believe everything you hear anywhere. It might be angled, it might not be. I don’t know in this case since I haven’t read it but I believe that many things are angled alot (such as Fahrenheit 9/11).
How I understood it before was that there was a monthly fee instead, the system they are using now (pay for each game) is alot better in my oppinion. And from what I’ve heard the whole buy and download games (Direct-to-Drive and all that stuff) are getting quite popular. Half-Life 2 had many sales over the download system.
Btw, ITAvenger, im not trying to attack you or anything, Im just giving you might thoughts
no way this thing hits market…my personal opinion.
“telling us anway.”
im sure u mean anyway
Still very skeptical
I didn’t think that was an attack UnknownBum I value all opinion.
My meaning on the menus was that it seemed very barebones, and based on how it’s been marketed and the console itself it looks like a very early alpha build with not a lot of flash to it. Flash is all this thing has been from the start so it was a bit suprising.
Did you read the HardOCP’s article from late 2003?
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTEyLDE=
It’s pretty interesting. It paints a very dim picture of the company. I know how things can have a slant, but the way the article was written and the way it was researched it seems pretty unbiased. Kevin Bachaus (the guy in the video) was brought in to give the console legitamacy after the article was written and airs a lot of dirty laundry about the original president that Infinum probably didn’t want it’s investors to know. He seems to have brought them a long way since then, but I still don’t see this as a viable platform.
I really don’t think they can make money on this service with the sophistication of competing consoles and PCs. The Phantom falls into a grey area where it’s not a PC, but it plays PC games. It’s not a console, yet it’s a throw away, non-upgradeable device like a console is. I think that the two camps of PC and console are already very established and adding a third group with this gaming service will not fly with already cash strapped gamers.
It’s like politics in the US. A third party would be nice, but it just ain’t gonna happen.
Its…. kinda…big. Like HugE!
Not impressed. The guys was kinda shaky on details. He even admitted that the Console is current Gen, and does NOT compete with XBOX 360/PS3/Nintendo Revolution.
I have BIG doubts. I think the company which is located in Sarasota, Florida had a great idea but it just took too damn long.
I could have sworn I read an article that said that the Phantom was canceled.
BTW, guys, the nice thing about the console is that there is already an established base of gamers that you can play with online and games to play. What I mean to say is that it doesn’t have to be popular to be a good buy for a few people that want to play PC games but don’t want to spend money on an expensive gaming computer.
Maybe this will help pave the way for better PC categorization in terms of performance. I know MS has always wanted to create a sort of numbering system for game requirements.
I think we all know that this isn’t going to make much if any money. I would never purchase the box, but I don’t disapprove of the concept. It still looks fishy and unprofessional, though.
My two cents? It’s going to bomb, and bomb hard. The overall system specifications are pitiful in comparison to competitors, with the excuse constantly being “it’s a service”. Sorry Kev, but I don’t think anyone is going to be able to download a faster GPU via your happy-wappy Phantom service.
Furthermore, is it just me, or is the interface absolutely atrocious? Blech!
Well, somehow I think it will live upto its name.
Phantom was a well thought out name for a console that will never appear, the company has all the hallmarks of sponging from people for its money that is then used to provide salary packets and perks to the top fat cats and enough work for the lower levels to keep going. Its amazing how many accountants you need to keep track of all the stock issues and sales etc a company can produce.
Just out of interest, anyone want to buy a molding machine, going cheap, only used to stamp out 2 or 3 cases.