Mar 12
Our chance to take on Watchmen now that it’s out and ready for intake. Special guest Len from Jawbone Radio joins us for the fun!
Additional thanks to GoDaddy (codes LIFE1, LIFE2, and LIFE3), YouBuyNow.com, O, Brian, Mark, Scott Fletcher, Rob Goobers, Skyhawk, Sebastiaan van Dijk, various contributors, and YOU!
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This is highly congruent with my current interests
Whoo hoo! Another ELR episode!
I know you’ve got all this planned and worked out, Scott, but I gotta say that the extra week of wait is sometimes killing me. Sometimes I listen to old eps just to listen to you guys crack me up. I guess I’ll have to adjust to the new schedule or…you know… maybe get a REAL life.
Okay I’ll shut up now…. am downloading and will listen immediately…
This is my first post on your site, but I’ve been listening for many weeks. I also sometimes listen to older stuff a few times just to get by. Downloading now!
@Jonathan – Don’t worry. Once we get caught up on some stuff, we will get back to the weekly dose just as quick as we can.
Ok, the repeated blue man weiner did not bug me and neither did the sex scene. I think I have been watching too much HBO. >.<
I’ll wait to see watchmen before listining to the show… I don’t want to spoil the movie… I want to be surprise when I see the blue weiner
really really glad to hear your reassurance of a weekly schedule in the future, that makes me a very happy dude. that being said though, while i havent heard the full ep, i caught the last half on ustream last night and i was probably laughing more than i have at any ELR ep since the one where brian confessed he was scared of jurassic park. well freaking done
Great show and I highly agree with most of the comments and opinions of you guys, but the one thing that’s really bugging me is that everywhere I go to read/hear anything about Watchmen I keep hearing something akin to “Don’t see this if you haven’t read the book” and “This is a movie for fans and no one else.” I highly disagree to this in that both my wife and myself had never read the book before and we both absolutely loved the movie and thought it was the best we’ve seen in a very long time. I’m sure there’s little nuances that we didn’t pick up, but it was absolutely brilliant. And we’re now anxiously awaiting our copy of the book in the mail. I do totally agree with the fact that the movie and therefore the book is not for everyone, and therefore you need to be a certain kind of person to appreciate this kind of story; however, this is not just fans.
@LeLoup This is great to hear. I was really hoping that the movie would excite some people into buying the graphic novel. Now I know of at least one.
and @supersamura it’s not nice to laugh at other people’s fears….unless they are really funny.
I am hoping for a Sandman Graphic Novel movie one day. hope hope hope hope hope
@missiondeep I am definitely going to check the graphic novel out,I heard of it before the movie but this has really made me want to check this out!
Even though I didn`t read the book,I really enjoyed this movie and so did my firends. And yes the sex scene in the night owl was pretty uncomfortable lol
if you end up getting one of the Graphic Audio CD’s we mention on the show….shoot me an email and let me know what you thought about it.
For those who haven’t listened….you can go to graphicaudio.net and use the code “extralife” to get 40% off your first purchase of any cd audio books.
Saw Watchmen as a free showing in Quantico. When the fire came out of the owl ship thingy (forget the name) everyone in the movie theater laughed. I gues its just because we are Marines
Um… Scott, you said that the Watchmen comic did not make any references to music? I’m not sure if you were being ironic, because there is lots of references to music in it. There are five pop songs referenced (2 by Bob Dylan, 1 Elvis Costello, 1 Billie Holiday, 1 John Cale) and Ride of the Valkyries is also references. Admittedly, it is the best-hidden one (a friend reminded me of it): it is in either the first or the second text section.
Although I have to say the producers made some not-so-good choices when picking the songs for the movie.
yeah, I forget about the texty parts. But you are right.
Am I the only person who felt that Malin Akerman sucked.
No. Not a big fan either.
sorry brian but what you revealed in that ep was…well my reaction was like O’s
“we said we’d respect each other but…::O laughs::”
for what its worth though you have always been, and always will be my favorite ELR panel member
Just saw W…. I WANT my 2.5 hours back. Very not impressed. The popcorn was tasty though
Ahh, excellent…I was just thinking about how I wanted more ELR to listen to. I’m serious, by the way. The corporate job is making me have a commute, which has strangely given me the opportunity to listen to ELR again. Ironic that being the busiest I’ve ever been is making me have free time for ELR
@ campaigner
you beat me to the punch concerning “Ride of the Valkyries”. when i heard it mentioned on the podcast that it was an unusual/obscure song to play for the scene, i immediately remembered it’s reference in the book and how it obscure it was then. in the book, it was in the Under the Hood book in which Hollis Mason attempts to sway the readers over to him. He tells the story of the shop owner who finds out that his wife is cheating on him and opens his door with “Ride of the Valkyries” blasting.
I never got into comic books themselves but I usually enjoy comic book movies. The only one I actually disliked while watching it was Daredevil. I’m looking forward to seeing Watchmen on DVD.
Good show, but I have to say, I’m baffled by how much people talk about the blue penis. It was onscreen for less than 30 seconds total of the whole movie. Harvey Keitel showed his off for more screen time in Bad Lieutenant and The Piano. So did Jason Mewes in Zac and Miri Make a Porno, and those were real ones!
I think we as a society need to grow up, and realize it’s not only women who have naughty bits, and it’s okay to show them, in a movie.
naked people scare me. Not as much as Jurassic Park…but still.
I don’t wanna grow up! Blue Wiener makes me laugh!
Uh.. I think you got the time thing backwards. *We* jumped *forward* an hour. So O was probably late, not early.
Nope. We jumped forward an hour. His time stayed the same. So he showed up at his normal time of 8, which was now our time of 9. Therefore, he came early, but only early according to our new jumped forward time.
Math is hard.
The blue penis is remarkable only because we see such things on the big screen so rarely.
It in no way detracts from the movie. It’s nudity. So what?
And.. OMG! Kids saw a penis!!! Guess what, half of them have their own penis.
Scheduled time of 8 o’clock. So you guys start at 8 o’clock our time, which is 7 o’clock his time….
He shows up at 8 o’clock his time, which is 9 o’clock our time, at which time you guys have already been recording for an hour…
Maybe I just need more coffee
I’m posting as I listen, and lo!, O just showed up. Late.
@missiondeep: Yep you can make 2 tally marks for the movie making people go out and get the book to read, for me and my wife. It really was great, and I’m curious to see what else there is to the story that was left out/changed.
So there was a reason why the comedian dropped his drink before throwing the mug?!
For me it wasn’t the blue wiener that was the problem for the 10 and 12 year olds in the theater…it was more about the sex and degree of violence.
Now, the thing I found funny about the wiener was that it was just out there…on the comic page it was easier to believe that people could carry on casual conversations with a naked blue dude…and it was portrayed very greek statue-esq…unlike in the movie where it was more like a porn star wiener and was in the same shots with people looking Manhattan in the face and not at his dingle. To me it was fun to talk about the absurdness of it.
Back to the sex scenes. Just like the violence, the sex scenes were not age appropriate for 10 and 12 year olds. At that age most kids could not comprehend sex much less how it can affect someone emotionally. Being the father of a 10 year old I understand that my kid is just now getting interesting in girls. I don’t want him to think of sex as something casual or depraved. I can understand concepts like multiple partners, rape and casual sex. Because I am, believe it or not, mature enough to know what is real and what is fantasy.
I’ve had the same thoughts about the sex and violence in the movie. While I think the violence was over the top, it was certainly in keeping with the flavor of the book. The problem is, the printed page is fixed. It relies far more on imagination to fill in the sounds, and action. Movies don’t have to worry about that, which is one reason violence generally works better offscreen. (Example: the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre has almost no blood in it-yet people to this day will argue that point).
As for the sex, I thought the scene between NO and SS went on too long. It was no less graphic than what was in the comic, imo.
Still, 10 and 12 y/o had no business being in an R rated flick. A hard R at that.
Keep in mind, sex in archie in the comic was one panel of implied sex, and that was it. The movie gave us like 3 minutes of awkward herky jerky.
@missiondeep: well one could argue that the blue weiner being ignored by everyone else in the movie is only absurb to us because we don’t see people with blue weiner’s walking around. If it was a normal everyday occurance to turn around and see a blue weiner, you probably wouldn’t even notice it was there… unless it smacked you or something
First GTA IV: The Lost and Damned and now Watchmen. The penis is slowly being integrated into our lives until we can accept it. ACCEPT THE INSERTION OF THE PENIS INTO YOUR LIFE! DO IT NOW!
I would disagree with your opinions about young adults (early teenagers, etc)(full disclosure, I am 13) I first became aware of Watchmen when I saw the trailer at The Dark Knight. I, however, did my research, read the book, etc. I personally didn’t have too much of a problem with the movie. sure, there’s violence and sex, but does putting it on a big screen make it more gratuitous than the book? I agree that the sex scenes were awkward, but once again, it’s on a screen, big deal.
Scott, you said there was no reference to any music in the book, but don’t you recall the quotes from different songs at the end of each chapter/book? With ones from Bob Dylan, Elvis Costello, etc..
@mike What are you doing on the internet!! 13…and on the internet…I’m calling your mom.
There is a lot of “hormone” and body things that happen between 10 and 14 for a lot of people. Some people mature faster than others. You sound like a very mature 13 year old. My 10 year old is a very immature 10 year old.
Well I’m just glad I didn’t go with my Mom. Even though she’s 68, she’s far from being a prude, but there’s no way I could have watched the scene and not needed therapy afterwards.
Great episode guys. And yeah that Hallelujah scene was just awkward, glad I wasn’t there with family members.
I decided it would be a good idea to see this movie with my Dad, whom I tried to get into Watchmen for a long time. MAN was that awkward.
Also, I think although this movie was freaking long, they should have left the story about Rorschach’s mask in. It’s damn important (still, none of you guys remembered it was supposed to be a custom dress for Kitty Genovese, who got brutally murdered in broad daylight with tons of neighbors just watching, before she even got the dress… So I might be alone in my opinion).
Another little thing was little Rorschach taking a bite outta that bully’s cheek. Now I may be wrong here, but I remember him sticking a lit cigarette into his eye, which is great deal more disturbing and rorschachey.
Still, I loved it enough to see it twice. Without any family members the second time. The first two scenes are the coolest in the entire movie. Plus, what you said about Snyder’s slow motion. It. Rocks.