I can almost hear the way this guy would have said it too…
IMHO, if you have gone so far as to buy a star trek outfit… You are a lifetime member of nerddom.
I have some great friends that do the trek thing, with costumes, and go to the conventions. Hey more power to them! I get like 10 points for having an RSS subscription to this site, right? Oh and the right girl can really pull off the classic trek uniform. The wrong girl can give nightmares, especially if she has a tribble where her upper lip is supposed to be!
You guys say, like killing puppies is a bad thing. Is not, it could be bad for the puppie, but is good for the worms that will eat it. You guys have a bias against worms, and pro-puppies.
DAMN YOU, JAKE. You are my enemy forever. If it takes me 25 years to plot my revenge which will include forcing you to watch the destruction of your home planet and all you love and hold dear… I WILL DO SO!
Yeah, it’s a next gen insignia and is on the wrong side.
Not only did I “buy a uniform” but in 1987 I had a Next Gen uniform custom made by a professional. It was 100% authentic in every way. I ended up selling it cuz it was made when I weighed 145 pounds. Needless to say, I’m not gonna weigh that for another 50 years.
Why would they station all these cadets on their new flagship and put them in charge? Is there no one else left in the Federation? Also, why did one singularity send Nero and Spock back in time, but when the Enterprise got pulled into the second one time didn’t change at all?
Excellent toon, Scott! And I totally agree with Mercator, I automatically read the text with the best Star Trek nerd tone my imagination could muster. Which frighteningly resembles my own tone at times…
I have ran into some of these guys too (and apparently some are here as well), and I tend to wonder why they even go see the movie, if they know long before they get there that the movie will never satisfy them. Do they go just to find something to pick out of it?
What I can’t understand, is why didn’t the Nero and the other miners just go back to their home planet and warn their people of their impending doom instead of blasting away innocent planets that really had nothing to do with their planet’s destruction. Worst plot hole ever!
SPOIL: Why is a mining ship that big and mighty? 25 years aren’t that much, even (or especially?) in the future. Or why did Spoke stay on that ice planet for 25 years? He knew Scotty was close to him, why not leaving? Why do recruits get such important ships? Don’t you learn to fly on old vessels anymore? Why must Uhura be presented as such a hot girl? Why are some cadets only 17? Why not even younger? Come on, let’s have some 8 year old girl be the captain?
@S 1. Its not 25 years but 129 years. The singularity sent the Romulan ship further back that Spock, who came 25 years after the Romulan ship came. 2. Spock didn’t stay on that planet for 25 years, he had just got there. The Vulcan planet was just destroyed when Kirk landed on the ice moon. The flash back was memories transferred from old Spock when the Romulan planet was destroyed and then again minutes or hours before when the Vulcan planet was destroyed. 3. Th cadets left immediately because of the distress call from Vulcan. I’ll give you it doesn’t make much sense they’d be given high priority positions on the first mission. 4. Uhura was hot in the old series. The rest? Eh..hard to take a kid seriously I suppose.
1. Why is a mining ship that big and mighty? 25 years aren’t that much, even (or especially?) in the future.
The ship is more like from 125??? or whatever years in the future, old Spock tells Kirk how many years in the future it will be till that star goes supernova. I had a similar discussion with my friends after the movie and we figured that if a “mining ship” from this year (with rudimentary weapons to fight pirates lets say) fought against a ship from 125 years ago, the mining ship would probably kick butt.
2. Why did Spock stay on that ice planet for 25 years? He knew Scotty was close to him, why not leaving?
He didn’t stay for 25 years, when Nero went to Vulcan to blow it up he dropped Spock off at the ice planet to watch Vulcan get sucked up. Don’t ask me how he can see Vulcan get destroyed from so far away though that was stupid. And he didn’t know Scotty was there, in his time line Scotty is probably some ace engineering officer on the enterprise. Remember he is really surprised when he sees him.
Why do recruits get such important ships? Don’t you learn to fly on old vessels anymore?
I’m guessing its because they’re new ships and they need people quickly…I dunno!
Why must Uhura be presented as such a hot girl? Why are some cadets only 17? Why not even younger? Come on, let’s have some 8 year old girl be the captain?
Rather have her be a hottie than a nottie And the cadets were all different ages (McCoy was already a doctor for instance)
Here’s a question there can be no good answer to. Spock’s mission was to save Romulus from the supernova by using a sphere of “red matter” arround 1cm in diamiter, to create a singularity, to absorb it.
Why, then for the love of god -given that only a tiny ammount of “red matter” is needed to be effective, in the one cicumstance the vulcans built the ship for- does there need to be a huge tube containing a fucking great wad of the stuff the size of a super enormous beach ball?
“why can’t people just enjoy movies?” It s a little something called “suspension of disbelief” that any fantasy writer has to deal with. Star Trek is built on a long history of science working in certain ways. Yes, it’s fake fantastical science, but it at least has some basis in conjecture, and it has 40 years of established fictional laws. There’s no such thing as “red matter.”
another example is in Indiana Jones where Lebouf is balancing on the jeeps. The first time he got hit in the junk with the tree, he would’ve gone down. there’s no way a man can maintain his balance while getting hit repeatedly in the dingaling. It would be slightly believable if it was Ahnold or Vin Diesel but not little punk Lebouf.
Suspension of disbelief is something that the viewer must choose to do, but the storyteller must show them the way. If Harry Potter had been written purely about wizards with no interaction with the muggle world, it wouldn’t work. You need that anchor to reality.
I’m kinda astounded at how difficult some people make life for themselves. Did ANYONE really go into this movie with the expectation of perfect, logical, methodical writing and plot development? If you did, can you honestly say that that’s the sort of writing you’ve always gotten from Star Trek franchises?
The movie was fun, engaging, and most importantly accessible by non-geeks. That’s a HUGE blessing for people like me who are geeks but are dating/married to/about to marry/related to non-geeks.
I agree with Dourgrim. It was a fun and engaging movie, just enjoy it for goodness sake!
@geljamin: not a complete explanation, but it was stated that Spock’s ship was a science research vessel, which would at least partly account for the red matter.
Let’s all remember one more thing about Scott’s comic specifically: if you consider the word “nerd” an insult, you definitely aren’t playing with the same deck of cards that everyone else on this site is. He named his fan appreciation event Nerdtacular, folks… which means he’s a nerd too. That’s part of why I love this site and all the accompanying media that goes with it: by nerds, for nerds!
It seems I am the onlyt person on the whole internet who didn’t like the movie. I have two reasons to think the movie sucked: a) The music was really not fitting (not that of a great reason I know, but wait for b)) b) There was only one scene in that whole movie that made sense, and that scene was the bar brawl.
I am not kidding. That bar scene was the only scene that made sense. I challenge you to find another scene in that whole movie that made any sense.
I loved that people who watched Alias called the big ball “Clifford the big red ball”, or “Clifford the big red McGuffin.” I almost yelled Clifford! in the theater. JJ Abrams should do a show Called The McGuffins, it would be awesome.
I’ll forgive you, Scott for your torturing of the English language because this is funny.
Still though, puppies die when someone puts “it’s” as the possessive for a object.
J.J. Abrams loves him a MacGuffin.
Can this be read with any voice other than Comic Book Guy? I couldn’t do it, and laughed all the harder for it.
What´s the name of the song at the very end of ELR#219??
puppies die when someone puts “it’s” as the possessive for a object.
THAT’s TRUe. FOR THE LOVE of PETE!!!
But the story was weak. Nevermind the science
The communicator badge is worn on the left side.
@pfft: NERD! *splat*
that is supposed to be a TOS uniform but it has a TNG insignia, What the heck?
also, I was watching the stream, I thought that having it with “I got your Red Matter right here, NERD!” was better
I can almost hear the way this guy would have said it too…
IMHO, if you have gone so far as to buy a star trek outfit… You are a lifetime member of nerddom.
I have some great friends that do the trek thing, with costumes, and go to the conventions. Hey more power to them! I get like 10 points for having an RSS subscription to this site, right? Oh and the right girl can really pull off the classic trek uniform. The wrong girl can give nightmares, especially if she has a tribble where her upper lip is supposed to be!
@ShinobiPhoenix
@Emanon73
NERD!
@ShinobiPhoenix:
“Still though, puppies die when someone puts “it’s” as the possessive for a object.”
You mean, for AN object?
You guys say, like killing puppies is a bad thing. Is not, it could be bad for the puppie, but is good for the worms that will eat it. You guys have a bias against worms, and pro-puppies.
This is why it is called “Sci-Fi” and not just “Sci.” Or should I say, “Sy-Fy?”
I love the movie. Especially the big giant tomato, the one suspended in the big jar.
Do you have more conversations with dudes like that guy with the tomato on his face or with dudes like the guy that threw the tomato?
Fixed the “its”.
THAT is a funny comic. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, but my wife told me she won’t “go that geek”.
@Jake
DAMN YOU, JAKE. You are my enemy forever. If it takes me 25 years to plot my revenge which will include forcing you to watch the destruction of your home planet and all you love and hold dear… I WILL DO SO!
*Doesn’t realize fatal flaw in plan*
That guy eats too much pickled Ceti Eel.
Yeah, it’s a next gen insignia and is on the wrong side.
Not only did I “buy a uniform” but in 1987 I had a Next Gen uniform custom made by a professional. It was 100% authentic in every way. I ended up selling it cuz it was made when I weighed 145 pounds. Needless to say, I’m not gonna weigh that for another 50 years.
Why would they station all these cadets on their new flagship and put them in charge? Is there no one else left in the Federation? Also, why did one singularity send Nero and Spock back in time, but when the Enterprise got pulled into the second one time didn’t change at all?
Excellent toon, Scott! And I totally agree with Mercator, I automatically read the text with the best Star Trek nerd tone my imagination could muster. Which frighteningly resembles my own tone at times…
The movie was great, can’t wait for the next one.
I have ran into some of these guys too (and apparently some are here as well), and I tend to wonder why they even go see the movie, if they know long before they get there that the movie will never satisfy them. Do they go just to find something to pick out of it?
What I can’t understand, is why didn’t the Nero and the other miners just go back to their home planet and warn their people of their impending doom instead of blasting away innocent planets that really had nothing to do with their planet’s destruction. Worst plot hole ever!
The logic flaws are countless.
SPOIL:
Why is a mining ship that big and mighty? 25 years aren’t that much, even (or especially?) in the future.
Or why did Spoke stay on that ice planet for 25 years? He knew Scotty was close to him, why not leaving?
Why do recruits get such important ships? Don’t you learn to fly on old vessels anymore?
Why must Uhura be presented as such a hot girl? Why are some cadets only 17? Why not even younger? Come on, let’s have some 8 year old girl be the captain?
Oh btw.. awesome comic
there’s a demon wandering Hollywood that forces people to put plot holes in their movies
lol
It’s a page from my life.
Great comic.
@S
1. Its not 25 years but 129 years. The singularity sent the Romulan ship further back that Spock, who came 25 years after the Romulan ship came.
2. Spock didn’t stay on that planet for 25 years, he had just got there. The Vulcan planet was just destroyed when Kirk landed on the ice moon. The flash back was memories transferred from old Spock when the Romulan planet was destroyed and then again minutes or hours before when the Vulcan planet was destroyed.
3. Th cadets left immediately because of the distress call from Vulcan. I’ll give you it doesn’t make much sense they’d be given high priority positions on the first mission.
4. Uhura was hot in the old series. The rest? Eh..hard to take a kid seriously I suppose.
What’s up with the dude’s stomach? Is he pregnant? Is he carrying an Alien?
*nerd mode on*
Hey S,
1. Why is a mining ship that big and mighty? 25 years aren’t that much, even (or especially?) in the future.
The ship is more like from 125??? or whatever years in the future, old Spock tells Kirk how many years in the future it will be till that star goes supernova. I had a similar discussion with my friends after the movie and we figured that if a “mining ship” from this year (with rudimentary weapons to fight pirates lets say) fought against a ship from 125 years ago, the mining ship would probably kick butt.
2. Why did Spock stay on that ice planet for 25 years? He knew Scotty was close to him, why not leaving?
He didn’t stay for 25 years, when Nero went to Vulcan to blow it up he dropped Spock off at the ice planet to watch Vulcan get sucked up. Don’t ask me how he can see Vulcan get destroyed from so far away though that was stupid. And he didn’t know Scotty was there, in his time line Scotty is probably some ace engineering officer on the enterprise. Remember he is really surprised when he sees him.
Why do recruits get such important ships? Don’t you learn to fly on old vessels anymore?
I’m guessing its because they’re new ships and they need people quickly…I dunno!
Why must Uhura be presented as such a hot girl? Why are some cadets only 17? Why not even younger? Come on, let’s have some 8 year old girl be the captain?
Rather have her be a hottie than a nottie
And the cadets were all different ages (McCoy was already a doctor for instance)
Damn LostFlame beat me to it
Here’s a question there can be no good answer to.
Spock’s mission was to save Romulus from the supernova by using a sphere
of “red matter” arround 1cm in diamiter, to create a singularity, to absorb it.
Why, then for the love of god -given that only a tiny ammount of “red matter”
is needed to be effective, in the one cicumstance the vulcans built the ship
for- does there need to be a huge tube containing a fucking great wad of the stuff
the size of a super enormous beach ball?
Great strip and something I run into every day. Why can’t people just enjoy movies? The Onion really nailed it with this:
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=videoembed
“big red ball in Alias” is all i have to say
“why can’t people just enjoy movies?”
It s a little something called “suspension of disbelief” that any fantasy writer has to deal with. Star Trek is built on a long history of science working in certain ways. Yes, it’s fake fantastical science, but it at least has some basis in conjecture, and it has 40 years of established fictional laws. There’s no such thing as “red matter.”
another example is in Indiana Jones where Lebouf is balancing on the jeeps. The first time he got hit in the junk with the tree, he would’ve gone down. there’s no way a man can maintain his balance while getting hit repeatedly in the dingaling. It would be slightly believable if it was Ahnold or Vin Diesel but not little punk Lebouf.
Suspension of disbelief is something that the viewer must choose to do, but the storyteller must show them the way. If Harry Potter had been written purely about wizards with no interaction with the muggle world, it wouldn’t work. You need that anchor to reality.
It’s about time you worked Randy Deluxe into one of your comics.
I keed! I keed!
@Bruce: thanks for the Onion vid—way funny and I had to put it on my weird item page for today. I’m still laughing!
@S: Your remark about an 8-year-old girl reminded me of something that came up in a discussion: the origin of the term “Mary Sue.” http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/dark/1000/marysue.htm
@Scott: Excellent comic—had me laughing, and I haven’t seen the movie yet. How messed up is that? I must make that trip this weekend.
@Everyone else: NERDS!
*laughs like Daffy Duck, then ponders the concept of Red Matter*
I’m kinda astounded at how difficult some people make life for themselves. Did ANYONE really go into this movie with the expectation of perfect, logical, methodical writing and plot development? If you did, can you honestly say that that’s the sort of writing you’ve always gotten from Star Trek franchises?
The movie was fun, engaging, and most importantly accessible by non-geeks. That’s a HUGE blessing for people like me who are geeks but are dating/married to/about to marry/related to non-geeks.
I agree with Dourgrim. It was a fun and engaging movie, just enjoy it for goodness sake!
@geljamin: not a complete explanation, but it was stated that Spock’s ship was a science research vessel, which would at least partly account for the red matter.
Let’s all remember one more thing about Scott’s comic specifically: if you consider the word “nerd” an insult, you definitely aren’t playing with the same deck of cards that everyone else on this site is. He named his fan appreciation event Nerdtacular, folks… which means he’s a nerd too. That’s part of why I love this site and all the accompanying media that goes with it: by nerds, for nerds!
I love this guy’s Belly. I couldn’t tell you why.
It seems I am the onlyt person on the whole internet who didn’t like the movie.
I have two reasons to think the movie sucked:
a) The music was really not fitting (not that of a great reason I know, but wait for b))
b) There was only one scene in that whole movie that made sense, and that scene was the bar brawl.
I am not kidding. That bar scene was the only scene that made sense. I challenge you to find another scene in that whole movie that made any sense.
oh come on post your name
Wow, what Scott has to put up with…
I loved that people who watched Alias called the big ball “Clifford the big red ball”, or “Clifford the big red McGuffin.” I almost yelled Clifford! in the theater.
JJ Abrams should do a show Called The McGuffins, it would be awesome. 